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Post by isador21 on Jul 28, 2008 22:30:30 GMT
I mean, electronic music that's played with real instruments such as bass and keyboard and such ...
(Bass is not facultative)
Yea, I've got really shifty musical tastes.
Just trying to taste a bit of everything.
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Post by ryan on Jul 29, 2008 1:35:36 GMT
Well, a lot of stuff is done on real keyboards/synths and stuff. Aphex Twin is renowned for his collection of epically rare synths. I assume you don't want him though?
Squarepusher plays (insane) live bass over a lot of his stuff. I saw him live a few weeks ago and he was playing stuff off a laptop and playing bass and keyboards over that (sometimes both together).
It's hard to get electronic on live instruments really... Battles get described a bit like that sometimes I think. They use beats of laptops and stuff, but they have live drums, bass, two guitars and shit load of keyboards. They use a lot of looping.
Digitonal does a lot of laptop work but it's augmented with live string (and sometimes guitar) parts. It's amazing, check them. The album '23 things fall apart' is brilliant, you should track that down.
Venetian Snares album 'Rossz csillag alatt született' uses some orchestral stuff with elements of drill n' bass, worth checking out.
Am I close with any of those?
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Post by Lawrie on Jul 29, 2008 6:38:46 GMT
Ladytron, Ladytron, Ladytron, Ladytron, Ladytron.
They're a British band comprising 2 blokes from Liverpool, 1 girl from Scotland and 1 girl from Bulgaria. The 2 girls do vocals and play keyboard and synths, the 2 blokes don't do vocals but do more synth stuff as well as arranging guitar and bass parts. Hard to define what genre they sit in really, they use loads of synths (the old analogue types that the likes of Kraftwerk championed), but increasingly in their later works their sound has moved from straight-up electro to a weird hybrid of electro and rock. The studio albums they have released are:
604 (2001) - very electro sound (maybe too electro for what you are looking for), with a few rough edges.
Light & Magic (2002) - again, a fairly electro album (and my favourite of their catalogue), but it's much more refined: the production is better and the tunes have more catchy hooks.
Witching Hour (2005) - this is the one I'd recommend you get, based on what I think you're looking for. This was their quantum leap record in terms of sound, much harder to distinguish a genre for this, it's a proper hybrid of rock and electro. And it contains the song Destroy Everything You Touch which is the best individual track of their career, IMO.
Velocifero (2008) - similar kind of style to Witching Hour, though a wee bit darker in tone and not quite as strong overall for me. Still a cracking album though.
I'd certainly recommend you check out Witching Hour, and if you like the style of that then Velocifero is a good bet as well. I'd also recommend Light & Magic because although I don't think it's quite as much what you're looking for as those two, it's just a brilliant album in its own right.
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Post by Lawrie on Jul 29, 2008 6:43:52 GMT
Oh, and for a totally different sound to Ladytron, but one that might tick your box, have a look at 65daysofstatic, especially their first 2 albums ( The Fall Of Math and One Time For All Time). Their sound is fairly heavy-ish post-rock, with absolutely mental Warp-esque beats being played at the same time. Not sure if it counts cos the 'rock' half of their sound is played on traditional rock instruments, and the crazy Aphex stuff is all programmed, but they coexist together very nicely!  |
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Post by isador21 on Jul 29, 2008 9:35:38 GMT
I'll start by getting into Ladytron ... Actually, what I'm looking for is stuff similar to newer PRR... I just listened through the whole Riverside discography today and Gloaming was still stuck in my mind  That's how my "electro played with instruments" phase started... Actually, it might be more accurate to say "electronic music played by a band" Because I really can't get into MCs and such ... |
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Post by ryan on Jul 29, 2008 13:48:27 GMT
Nothing I mentioned has MCs, and won't, but I think you're slightly misinterpreting modern electronic music. Certainly what comes to my mind is IDM (the worst genre name ever), which is stuff like Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Clark etc. etc. If you're after electro, thats a bit different I guess.
Ladytron are rubbish! I saw them twice supporting NIN, on the third night I timed it to miss them. Dull dull dull.
Maybe LCD Soundsystem though? Their first album is worth a look (listen...?).
I was about to suggest 65daysofstatic actually. The newest EP, The Distant and Mechanised Glow of Eastern European Dance Parties, is stunning. Get that. Also hunt down AOD, a b-side off Retreat! Retreat! and one of my favourite tunes ever. 65 fit your bill of sounding a bit like new PRR, in that they both play progressive music, with heavy electronic influence.
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Post by Lawrie on Jul 29, 2008 13:59:42 GMT
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan - how wrong is it possible for one bloke to be?!  1) Ladytron are brilliant, my son, don't you go spreading your heresy about them being anything less than fantastic! isador, don't listen to him, he's clearly out of his tree! 2) As excellent as 65days are (and they are chuffing excellent), they don't sound a jot like PRR ( Dark Third era, or new stuff), not even on the new record. In fact, Ladytron are probably closer to PRR's new sound than 65days, although neither are a perfect match. And (IMO) if isador's after electronic-y stuff, he should start with the first two albums: The Destruction.. is undoubtedly a great album, but it's the least electronic of their catalogue (aside from the track The Distant & Mechanised Glow..): sounds the most HOTS-y/Vessels-y post-rock effort they've done to my ears. Good advice for you there, isador - Ryan, you may take that with a massive pinch of ;D EDIT - my bad, Ryan suggested the Dance Parties EP: that's probably a good shout, though my words about its parent album The Destruction Of Small Ideas still hold up - if you're looking at their albums first, start with The Fall Of Math and One Time For All Time |
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Post by isador21 on Jul 29, 2008 17:46:07 GMT
I'm actually a big fan of God is an Astronaut, in post-rock ... They add progressive elements to the post-rock genre, and have their own personnal sound. The bass is just magic too... I'll get into 65daysofstatic, Ladytron and Aphex Twin for now... Anything else I should discover ? (Everytime I need new music, I ask here, PRR fans always have the best tastes) |
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Post by hyperborean on Jul 29, 2008 19:28:14 GMT
The Helio Sequence
They may not be exactly what you're looking for, but they have some really strong grooves. And are totally flawless live - they can entertain a room full of people that have no clue who they are like no other relatively obscure indie band.
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Post by ryan on Jul 29, 2008 20:07:07 GMT
1) Ladytron are beyond rubbish. I've never seen a support band I dislike more. 2) 65 on the albums dont, although like I say the prgressive music/electonic music vibe is the same, but the Dance Parties EP has that trace element that features in newer PRR stuff, the end of Golden Clothes for example. I'd say get that EP first, then Fall Of Math which is outstanding. I agree, the new one is the least electronic. The Unreleased/Unreleasable stuff is worth getting hold of as well, and the remix compilation.  If you decide you like Aphex Twin, get the Tuss album. Also get stuff by Clark. |
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Post by isador21 on Jul 31, 2008 6:18:41 GMT
Dance Parties EP really is exactly what I was looking for ...
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