Post by the dark fourth on Oct 18, 2007 20:03:59 GMT
Yeah I was there. It was actually my first PRR gig, so I can't compare it with previous performances, but all I know was it was awesome. Yes, the crowd was small, but appreciative of the quality they saw. They played all the famous songs except for Bullits Dominae...and ended with Intention Craft, which was fantastic. It's good to see that they can operate perfectly fine with ownly four musicians rather than the original five...
Post by blondeambassador on Oct 18, 2007 23:05:36 GMT
Good to hear, I want them to play some more gigs now, I'm getting impatient! By the way, I don't think they ever play Bullits Dominae live...well, I've seen them 18 times (ooh thats scary, just did a quick count!) and I've never seen them do it.
Post by blondeambassador on Oct 19, 2007 11:10:40 GMT
Oh, it's not the concept of one-off gigs I'm concerned about, they're all well and good, they've done some at the Barfly etc that have been very succesful. It's just where and what the turn out is going to be like. I don't want them to be 'image obsessed' but at the minute they need to be careful to retain their image as an up and coming band, and playing at a rock society event at a students union on a Monday night doesn't really suggest they're on the up to me (I'm a student, I'm not being down on them at all, its just how it is.) I'm just concious they've been going a this for a fairly long time and I think maybe it's time to chose their shows/marketing wisely.
Post by the dark fourth on Oct 19, 2007 16:31:01 GMT
Um, well actually it wasn't that big...maybe 100 people? More at the high point proabably. But they were a good crowd. There was a reasonably good mosh pit going for a while, which was nice. I like to hope that they only do one off gigs during times of major recording, when they can't do full blown tours but want to stay in practice. Hopefully we'll have some cool releases early next year followed by a proper headline tour.
I agree the management issue seems to be significant...most other bands keep some sort of buzz going whilst in the studio, or give some ffedback whilst on tour out of the country...PRR now barely communicate with fans and the sense of dynamism, optimism that something signifcant was about to/ was happening has fizzled out in the UK which is a huge shame....it wouldnt hurt for them to post on my space occasionaly.....no buzz about the band, no publicity of any sort is only going to make would be promotors less likely to put them on. Like BA I have no experience of organising publicty/gigs etc (except for over 36 years attending) but i am sure I could do a better job ! unless all of this quiet is due to the fact that the band are uncertain in themsleves - maybe wrapped up more in djing etc...which to me would be a huge pity they have loads of potential...but dont seem to have any business sense....or maybe I am being too hard......for christ sake...just wish they would play London again and like soooon.
Post by the dark fourth on Oct 22, 2007 20:27:31 GMT
The big issue is whether this ominous silence means there's suddenly going to be a large announcement about new material/tours etc or whether it preludes the band's implosion...in the former case the management is entirely forgiven, in the latter it is condemned and shall be hunted down by all true PRR fans and made to answer for their crimes.
Great band though they are (PRR are probably in my favourite three current bands), I think the main thing is that they need to actually write some new songs! With the odd recent-ish exception like Victorious Cupid and Deus Ex Machina, the band have been playing the same 10/12 songs since I first picked up the Poptones release of Apprentice Of The Universe years ago. I appreciate that they put a lot of time and effort into making their songs perfect in the studio, and that the mess with Sony and Jim going their separate ways to the band can't have helped, but the fact is that they have toured [and released/sold, it must be said] their current batch of songs to death. Added to this is that they don't ever seem to play a significant proportion of their [small-ish] back catalogue live - not just b-sides like Sound Of Free/Asleep Under Eiderdown, but significant album tracks like Bullitts Dominae and Goshens Remains are rarely, if ever, heard.
Of course the complete lack of information/promotion is hindering their live and studio career in terms of getting their music across to the largest possible audience, and to be fair I am prepared to give the band the benefit of the doubt on that, and believe that it should be IO who should be making more noises about PRR. However, the band must also play their part - when even the [very few] diehards like us on these boards are getting bored of hearing the same thing over and over on record and on the road, then it is the band's responsibility to get some new material down in the studio, and play it live. Obviously, no one is forcing them to do that - it's a free country and they have the right to work at whatever pace they choose: they just shouldn't expect any success, even by indie/alternative standards, if they don't keep things moving with fresh songs and hard work on their own parts. And I WANT them to be successful, purely because the more success they have, the better platform they will have to continue making music, and the longer they will have access to that platform.
Just my opinion, but I'd bet I'm not alone in feeling like this.
Post by the dark fourth on Oct 24, 2007 10:13:33 GMT
Seriously, though, before we condemn them ourtright, I really do think we should just wait a little longer to see if anything exciting happens. Paul's bulletin before the Southampton gig suggested 'studio news' is coming 'really soon'. It may turn out that our calls for more material have been answered. I say give it till the new year, then we start sending hate mail.
I know this is going a bit off topic now, but some time back the band posted their email address in conjunction with the merch for the European tour. What do people think about emailing them and asking what's happening? Its email@example.com - maybe it's their manager or PR address Can this hurt, or should we just wait for the crumbs off the table?
Post by the dark fourth on Oct 25, 2007 10:08:17 GMT
Ooooh! That is exciting! I don't see how it can do any harm to ask...however don't get your hopes too high, they may have stopped using that address, or they may just not answer. I've already tried talking to them through myspace without result.
By the way, I've been meaning to mention; at the Southampton gig there were at least two or three tracks they played that I hadn't heard before. Now I must confess that there are also one or two recordings I've yet to get hold of, but the ones they played live sounded stylistically different, so I'm pretty sure they were new. They sounded pretty hard-core...
But yeah, I would use that email. It may just work...
Post by blondeambassador on Oct 25, 2007 12:33:41 GMT
I'm guessing one will have been Deus Ex Machina...I'm assuming you've heard Victorious Cupid and aren't counting that (tis on the myspace) but exciting if they're actually playing any other new material- about time too!