Autumnal Touring

[Paul]

And so it begins!

We’ve just confirmed a bunch of live shows for our Autumn tour. We’ll be adding more dates soon so keeping checking our myspace and facebook for updates.


Sunday 5th October – ProgPower Festival. The Netherlands - www.progpower.eu
Tuesday 7th October - Incrível Almadense, Lisbon, Portugal (support for Porcupine Tree)
Wednesday 8th October – Teatro Sá da Bandeira, Porto Portugal (support for Porcupine Tree)
Friday 10th October - Sala Heineken, Madrid, Spain (support for Porcupine Tree)
Saturday 11th October – Apolo, Barcelona, Spain (support for Porcupine Tree)
Sunday 12th October – Rockstar Live, Bilbao, Spain (support for Porcupine Tree)
Friday 17th October – Rockhal, Luxembourg (support for Porcupine Tree)
Sunday 19th October – Prog Resiste Festival @ Spirit of 66
www.spiritof66.be
progresiste.com/convention
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[timpenumbra]

Great stuff Paul - should be amazing with PT again..........

Thanks!

[Lawrie]

Good stuff, hope the band have as much fun in Europe as they did last time out. I'll be waiting patiently for PRR's return to Blighty, but nice to see that things are kicking into motion again.

[hyperborean]

...I should just hop on a plane and go!

[the dark fourth]

OK, finally finallised my interary for the year. I think I will be returning to the UK at the beginning of November, in which case these dates look good - presuming they are followed by a UK tour (fingers crossed for a PRR headline tour!)

Thanks again for the updates Paul!

[blondeambassador]

Glad to see you're going out with Porcupine Tree again, that was brilliant last time. Must remember that I CANNOT afford or justify any more European jaunts mind you and therefore I should just be patient!

Actually, I've had a think...and although I'm delighted to see touring plans, I can't help but wonder if some of those bookings are wise. Touring with Porcupine Tree I guess still fits, but am I the only one who thinks that prog festivals might not be the way forward with the sound of the new material coming out of the studio? Almost feels like a bit of a step back in time. If the sound of Gloaming on the bootleg, or in fact Deus Ex Machina, is anything to go by, I'm not expecting PRR to continue to be very 'prog' at all, and I just wonder if they are sticking themselves back in the prog box, when they seemed to want to get away from it.

[sarahm]

totally agree. i dont see the potential new fans who they can make thru new sounds Qing 2 get tickets to prog fests.

[Lawrie]

Good points, ladies, hadn't thought about that. Wonder how much say in where PRR play is divvied up between 1) the band; 2) Jonathan and the management; and 3) Superball as their label?

[sarahm]

U know better than me 4 sure! I suppose it depends on how much money they make from prog festivals compared 2 touring as support. I dont understand why they havent played at a single festival this summer. Not one and there are plenty 2 go around! Maybe that answers question about how much money they make from festivals.

[blondeambassador]

Festivals aren't normally a lucrative performance I don't think (as in UK ones anyway) but they are a key way to spread the word and promote yourselves. It's not easy to get on the bill for the bigger ones though, obviously. I don't know about money for the European ones but I do know that to me, its the wrong type of promotion...not all gigs send out the right message, I questioned the Tiana prog festival and that was well before it became clear the future for PRR was no longer in TDT style music. I don't even know how tracks such as Gloaming will go down with fans of real progressive rock to be honest.

[sarahm]

But they dont have 2 headline at festivals. Lots of them have hundreds, even thousands, of acts who r all different types of music. And PRR could definitely get a crowd in 2 make sure they r not at a tiny tent. i still dont get it

I know what u mean about prog fans. My boyfriend is one and he only just came round 2 deus ex machina! He wasnt 2 sure about Gloaming at the water rats gig. Him and his friends r from poland, and they are very into prog. I notice Poland is not on the new tour schedule. Maybe Tiana helped them with all the spanish bookings?

We r V excited about the tour with Porcupine tree though, so maybe him and his frends can have another go there with the new sounds, if they make it 2 a non polish or english gig!

[the dark fourth]

Yes I was slightly dismayed to see more prog based stuff, but I still live in hope that a forthcoming headline tour (pretty please!) will allow more scope for true progression.

[timpenumbra]

This has always been a difficult issue. PRR have always appealed to prog types and also the 'younger' crowd. Like it or not, PRR always play to v enthusiastic prog crowds in Europe especially. In the UK it's notoriously difficult to do well - even with the (poorly promoted) Sony deal, a great album and plenty of touring in 2005/6, audiences weren't always great.

'Gloaming' still sounds prog to me, less so DEM, VC - I expect the album to be transitional, heavier electronics, but still proggy.

Anyway, aren't PT the more hip end of prog? For me, the bottom line is the music is great, whatever you want to call it!

[blondeambassador]

I guess my real problem with it is that those type of gigs don't really EXTEND the audience that listen to PRR...they might gain a few more fans and a couple of mentions on proggy forums, but its a limited scene and really it isn't going to be a huge step for them. Its about time they took some bigger steps, I'd like to think the new album as a chance to do that. A few festivals in the UK wouldn't have gone amiss, even if they were just small ones, as the festival industry here is booming. I'm just worried that the new material won't quite float the prog fans boats, to be honest and therefore there are probably better gigs the band could be doing where their new music will appeal more.
Look at some of the bands taking off at the minute, a large number with electro influences- I see this as an ideal time for PRR to really push with the UK as well as Europe. Then again, I don't expect the album to be very proggy at all really, so maybe thats just different expectations,we'll have to wait and see.

[the dark fourth]

I wouldn't say PRR should be joining any kind of band waggon. Many of the electro bands doing well at the mo are really rubbish (even if many are also very good). PRR should develop naturally in whichever direction their creative instincts take them. My only problem with prog based tours is that they may artificially stunt the natural progression of the band, which seems to be veering away from prog. And of course Tim is absolutely correct with his last sentence there!