Any unreleased earlier material ?

[mike1]

Found the below on another forum...obviously I have copies of the obvious stuff....but has this guy got it rite ?

Corp Handshake; Human Zoo; Lil' Doggy; The Clearing; Brief Reminder

Is he confused ? plain wrong ? or maybe knows something we dont...or are they maybe old Sunset Sound of Gel numbers

any advice/knowledge very welcomed....


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I found a torrent that was posted yesterday for a sequenced bootleg containing all PRR's songs that aren't on The Dark Third.
Tracklisting:
1. The Borgens Vow
2. Arrival/The Intention Craft
3. Asleep Under Eiderdown
4. Corporate Handshake
5. In Aurélia
6. Human Zoo
7. Nimos and Tambos
8. Brief Reminder
9. Sound of Free
10. Lil' Doggy
11. The Clearing

I'm not sure if posting a link is violating any forum rules though.

[Lawrie]

This is how I understand the state of play on the songs you list. I am 90% what I think I know is correct, but I can't be completely certain:

1. The Borgens Vow Unsure whether this is a PRR song or whether it's by The Sunset Sound. It is an earlier version of Borgens Vor [disc 2 of the European release of TDT] that does not have any vocals, and comprises mainly of the opening guitar riff on the newer version, but with some more electronic squeaks and effects as well.
2. Arrival/The Intention Craft This is a PRR song, not The Sunset Sound. It is available on Cautionary Tales For The Brave, the US release of The Dark Third, or disc 1 of the European release of The Dark Third. To my knowledge, there is only one version of this song.
3. Asleep Under Eiderdown This is a PRR song, not The Sunset Sound. It is available on the B-side of the UK release of The Intention Craft [single], and also as a hidden track at the end of disc 1 of the European release of TDT. To my knowledge, there is only one version of this song.
4. Corporate Handshake As far as I know, this is a song by The Sunset Sound. Don't know when/what is was released on.
5. In Aurélia This is In Aurelia, and is by PRR and not The Sunset Sound. It is available on Cautionary Tales For The Brave, a standalone In Aurelia single released in the UK, and also on disc 2 of the European version of The Dark Third. To my knowledge, there is only one version of this song.
6. Human Zoo As far as I know, this is a song by The Sunset Sound. Don't know when/what is was released on.
7. Nimos and Tambos This is a PRR song, although I believe that it may have originated from work by The Sunset Sound. It is available on the US release of TDT, and also on disc 1 of the European release of TDT. A very slightly different version (earlier recording, no major differences) is also available on the B-side of the previously released Apprentice Of The Universe single.
8. Brief Reminder As far as I know, this is a song by The Sunset Sound. Don't know when/what is was released on.
9. Sound of Free This is a PRR song, and is available on the B-side of the UK release of The Intention Craft single. I believe there is also a slightly different earlier version by The Sunset Sound where there are slightly different electronic/keyboard effects in the mix, and an additional chorus: I don't know when/what this earlier version was released on.
10. Lil' Doggy As far as I know, this is a song by The Sunset Sound. Don't know when/what is was released on.
11. The Clearing As far as I know, this is a song by The Sunset Sound. Don't know when/what is was released on.

Hope this helps.

Anyone who knows better, feel free to go ahead and correct me - as I say, there I things I don't know outright and other things that I'm not 100% on.

[ryan]

There's a little bleed as to what is what really, it's hard to say. I've got stuff listed as under both names. Alseep Under Eiderdown was a Sunset Sound tune, I think it was a b-side to one of their singles (I've not got mine with me to check though)...? There's at least two recordings of that.
As for everything else... it's hard to say one way or another for most of them really, although Aurelia, Nimos and Intention from that collections will all be PRR versions.

[Punk Ambassador]

1. Borgans Vor - an earlier instrumental version
2.Arrival/Intention craft - a Sunset Sound song which stayed with them up until PRR. there are earlier versions than the cautionary tales version.
3. Asleep Under Eiderdown - this is a sunset sound song. you can find it on the B Side to the Border Town single.
4. Corporate Handshake - Gel/Sunset Sound
5. InAurelia - PRR
6. Human Zoo - Gel/Sunset Sound
7. Nimos and Tambo's - Sunset Sound
8. Brief Reminder - available on the first PRR demos
9. Sound Of Free - first available on the first PRR demos
10. Lil Doggy - Gel/Sunset Sound
11. The Clearing - Sunset Sound/Early PRR Demos

[Lawrie]

Nice one, Punk Ambassador - shows how much I didn't know about the band's early days! ;D

[mike1]

Come back Punk Ambass we need you...sod the guest status knowing all of that you do...err you are surely one of us....or maybe even one of them...err ..sad though that may well be ....

......and obviously I had the obvious bits but some of the others though ...umm very imformative....now for my next question...how does one get their sticky mits on the gel/sunset stuff....advice as always very welcome..........and worthy of drinks at the next PRR live function (sadly I cant make the 12th April though...if that is indeed a real thinggy).

[stumoo]

I bought the Sunset Sound singles Moving and Border Town a while back. I think it was from a site called Velocity or something. Let's see if I can find a link... yep here ya go

www.velocityrecordings.com/band.php?bid=14

Border Town arrives with a taste of the familiar - Asleep Under Eiderdown is a b-side. Both b-sides on Moving are about girls (never knew Jon was such a ladies' man )

[ryan]

Both pretty neat little pop rocky singles