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Post by hyperborean on Nov 1, 2010 0:33:26 GMT
Also, on a totally separate note, this is driving me crazy - in the background of the chorus in Valour is there an ooo-ooo-aaah vocal part, or is it a particularly lovely guitar effect? Listened to it with several different headphones; it's really hard to tell. It's lovely either way, but if I had to guess, I'd say it's a guitar effect. It's synths. I heard no subtle vocals. All vocals were either singing, "There were no dead..." and so on, or harmonies to those chorus lyrics. Everything else sounds like synths to me. VERY GOOD synths. I would LOVE a cd version, a higher quality version of this album than the MP3 iTunes version, but no store in the US around me carries them... oh well. Everything in it's right place; I'm glad I even have the album. |
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Post by hyperborean on Nov 1, 2010 0:39:08 GMT
Also - have you considered a restraining order? One more thing, I am not a violent person. I even gave this guy a "namaste," ceremonial bow of respect because I may have wronged him, and I don't consider myself above him, before he socked me. I didn't fight with him. Tried to avoid all punches and ignore all baseless threats. But I am not blameless. Karma has its attraction. I can only try to do good further on. And further in, there is no use of negative energy then, and, projected into this space (PRR forum). |
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Post by mrguy on Nov 2, 2010 4:48:43 GMT
When I first got H&A I loved FF (along with every song), but now I can barely bring myself to listen to it... It has gotten old fast. I may have overplayed the whole album, but it is feeling like it is getting old already... I think someone posted this on the 65DOS forum, but I feel that H&A would have made a fantastic EP if they had dropped 3-5 songs off it... Actually, whilst I love all PRR's releases each time I listen to them, they've all followed this pattern; 'holly crap, this is so amazing' -> 'Oh yeah, I love this album' -> 'Hmm. I wonder why I don't listen to it... it's grown a bit tiresome, but I loved it so much  " |
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Post by hyperborean on Nov 2, 2010 11:34:45 GMT
I DON'T get the overplay paradox much. These albums are usually so rich with detail, harmonies, and good core themes that I never get sick of them. I'm still going back to TDT - although much less frequently - and I'd say it's still one of my top 5 albums, ever. And, at first I thought something drastic had changed between TDT and AVO, the epic quality was lost... but it really wasn't. Even though they changes the sounds, the epic quality of the songwriting (at least thematically) was still there, still is. P.S. - if you're looking for a breather, try Bad Religion's new The Dissent of Man - goodness it's good!
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Post by the dark fourth on Nov 2, 2010 11:43:27 GMT
Actually, whilst I love all PRR's releases each time I listen to them, they've all followed this pattern; 'holly crap, this is so amazing' -> 'Oh yeah, I love this album' -> 'Hmm. I wonder why I don't listen to it... it's grown a bit tiresome, but I loved it so much " Are there any bands who's music doesn't follow this pattern if you listen enough times? |
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Post by blondeambassador on Nov 2, 2010 15:22:39 GMT
Actually, whilst I love all PRR's releases each time I listen to them, they've all followed this pattern; 'holly crap, this is so amazing' -> 'Oh yeah, I love this album' -> 'Hmm. I wonder why I don't listen to it... it's grown a bit tiresome, but I loved it so much " Are there any bands who's music doesn't follow this pattern if you listen enough times? Yes, I've got to say if I was listen as much as I know some people around here too, I think I'd quickly learn to loathe H&A...I've never been one to just listen to the same album over and over, no matter how good it is! |
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Post by mrguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:49:44 GMT
Yes, well normally I do that. But PRR are kinda unique, and once I hear something new from them, everything else sounds pretty mediocre, so I don't really want to listen to anything else...
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Post by sticky on Nov 4, 2010 14:39:03 GMT
Have to admit, 'Last Man, Last Round' is growing on me.
still sticking to my guns on Fight Fire, though!
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Post by blondeambassador on Nov 4, 2010 15:08:35 GMT
Have to admit, 'Last Man, Last Round' is growing on me. still sticking to my guns on Fight Fire, though! I have to admit, for me, Fight Fire has grown old quite quickly, the repetition only works if I'm playing it REALLY loud, not something I get a chance to do often. I think it's a fantastic live track but for me, it doesn't work so well on the album. |
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Post by hyperborean on Nov 4, 2010 17:25:26 GMT
Have to admit, 'Last Man, Last Round' is growing on me. still sticking to my guns on Fight Fire, though! I have to admit, for me, Fight Fire has grown old quite quickly, the repetition only works if I'm playing it REALLY loud, not something I get a chance to do often. I think it's a fantastic live track but for me, it doesn't work so well on the album. Yeah - Fight Fire always seemed too repetitive to me, until now, considering it would make (does make?) an awesome sing along live song! "Last Man, Last Round" is one of my favs though. I'll have to turn that on after this Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros album is through. |
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Post by mhx on Nov 4, 2010 17:34:45 GMT
I hate it when PRR are messing with my mind... For some weird reason I'm completely addicted to "Never Divide" this week. That song of which I said it was the most redundant one on the album... ;D Also, Black Mourning came back on me recently. And I've been listening to a lot of random music last weekend, but I'm back to nonstop H&A this week. Fight Fire still rocks, and fortunately I can play it very loud most of the time; though it's usually Blitzkrieg that makes me turn up the volume.  |
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Post by mhx on Nov 4, 2010 18:41:52 GMT
Actually, whilst I love all PRR's releases each time I listen to them, they've all followed this pattern; 'holly crap, this is so amazing' -> 'Oh yeah, I love this album' -> 'Hmm. I wonder why I don't listen to it... it's grown a bit tiresome, but I loved it so much " It's quite different for me. There's a couple of really good albums that I pull out every once in a while and that I still love, yet I have to be in the right mood to listen to them. There's a bunch of other albums that I really loved when they came out and that have lost most of their appeal when I listen to them now. And then there's PRR albums, which I can listen to for hours without being bored and which always come to the rescue when there's absolutely nothing else that I would want to listen to. Probably the only other recordings that I can say the same of are Jakob's "Solace", Constants' "The Foundation, The Machine, The Ascension", Kaki King's "Junior" and the two live DVDs of Porcupine Tree. |
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Post by mrguy on Nov 19, 2010 3:02:13 GMT
To drag up the old dicussion; Yup, you need ages for a coopers album. Definitely worth reserving judgement til you've had a good ten full listens or so. What album would ya'll recommend? |
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Post by AlExMachina on Nov 19, 2010 11:01:56 GMT
Debut See This Through And Leave is a great album, lots of great coarse electro-rock. Reasonably cohesive as a whole album, though to an extent it is, as many debuts are, more song/single based as a representation of their best work up until that time. Film-maker, Training Dogs and Panzer Attack are the stand-outs.
Second album Kick Up The Fire And Let The Flames Break Loose is a better album, but probably doesn't have quite as many stand-out tracks as the former. The Same Mistake and Promises Promises are a good place to start here.
Both albums have a couple of stonking Open Insurrection-esque length build-up and releases.
Third album Make This Your own is perfectly reasonable, but not in the same league as those two and probably one to listen to only if you really like the first two and get into the band. Hope that helps
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Post by blondeambassador on Nov 19, 2010 12:57:05 GMT
Yes, either of the first two but not Make This Your Own, would be my verdict.
It was fine. But it was the sign of a band on their way out, if you ask me.
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