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Post by sticky on Nov 16, 2010 12:57:14 GMT
I think it could have been done better, but I'd say that the more likely flow of interest is PRR fans thinking about war and remembrance Mmm, didn't think about it that way. Good point. Absolutely, I do too - but wouldn't PRR fans already own the song in album format? |
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Post by blondeambassador on Nov 16, 2010 13:00:34 GMT
I think it could have been done better, but I'd say that the more likely flow of interest is PRR fans thinking about war and remembrance Mmm, didn't think about it that way. Good point. While I already have the track, obviously, the whole album has done that for me a little; I've never had any interest in war at all but this album has sparked an interest for me; I can't help but find myself considering what it must have been like etc, something I'd never done before. Or certainly not as an adult, anyway. |
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Post by the dark fourth on Nov 16, 2010 13:15:49 GMT
The armistice day we just had was the most meaningful ones for me that I've ever experienced. I confess that in the past I've sometimes missed the point. PRR definitely had a role to play in getting me to think about the issues that the day is about.
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Post by mhx on Nov 16, 2010 13:34:13 GMT
Mmm, didn't think about it that way. Good point. Absolutely, I do too - but wouldn't PRR fans already own the song in album format? Sure they would. But at least those PRR fans outside of the UK (and there are a few, I guess) might not know about Armistice Day. I'm not an exception, and while I didn't bother downloading a song I already have, the announcement got me interested in Armistice Day. Especially since November 11th in Germany is quite a different event (11:11am marks the start of the carnival season in some regions). While I'm sure I still can't estimate the importance of Armistice Day in the UK, at least this got me sensitised on the topic and the day. |
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Post by gilthar on Nov 16, 2010 15:15:40 GMT
so as we are coming to some history lessons. while in UK it is the Armistice Day in Poland it is the Independence Day. and that comes of course from the same date that is 11.11.1918.
Personally found the idea of making the song available very good. When you are a band that has a song on your album that can be somehow connected with some event it can be your way to celebrate and show your respect for such event!
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Post by ryan on Nov 16, 2010 19:40:56 GMT
Mmm, didn't think about it that way. Good point. Absolutely, I do too - but wouldn't PRR fans already own the song in album format? yeah, but you've not gotta download the track to be aware of this thing. i dunno, i can see good and bad about it really. |
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Post by mrguy on Nov 17, 2010 1:15:54 GMT
Glad that the previous argument stopped... it was getting a bit tedious (as well as being unnecessary... I think it could have been done better, but I'd say that the more likely flow of interest is PRR fans thinking about war and remembrance Thats actually a really good point... But again, it would have been better with donation options/links to donate... Sure they would. But at least those PRR fans outside of the UK (and there are a few, I guess) might not know about Armistice Day. That would be me. I assume it is similar to our ANZAC day... |
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Post by briggsy on Nov 17, 2010 13:56:57 GMT
Mmm, didn't think about it that way. Good point. While I already have the track, obviously, the whole album has done that for me a little; I've never had any interest in war at all but this album has sparked an interest for me; I can't help but find myself considering what it must have been like etc, something I'd never done before. Or certainly not as an adult, anyway. Incredible! So, lying politicians and news reports of 19 year-olds getting blown to bits by roadside bombs never sparked your interest in war, but a song by PRR does? Maybe they should go and entertain the troops in Afghanistan eh? |
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Post by blondeambassador on Nov 17, 2010 14:29:03 GMT
While I already have the track, obviously, the whole album has done that for me a little; I've never had any interest in war at all but this album has sparked an interest for me; I can't help but find myself considering what it must have been like etc, something I'd never done before. Or certainly not as an adult, anyway. Incredible! So, lying politicians and news reports of 19 year-olds getting blown to bits by roadside bombs never sparked your interest in war, but a song by PRR does? Maybe they should go and entertain the troops in Afghanistan eh? I was thinking more the wars the album was written about, obviously I'm well aware of roadside bombs and politics, thanks. For me, WWI and II has never struck a particular interest, I studied ancient history and never really covered the wars in any depth and so only know a limited amount about those wars; I have no family who fought in any British conflict etc. So, for me, yes, Hammer & Anvil and the emotions portrayed has made me think about those two wars. I'm not going to get political in this or involved in debate, there's a reason I abstained from joining in with the previous conversation. War, particularly a war that is taking place at the moment, is a very sensitive subject, and it's not something I wish to discuss on an internet forum. |
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Post by the dark fourth on Nov 17, 2010 17:12:26 GMT
Briggsy, have you never heard of the apathetic youth? That's why we need celebrities to come along and get us 'engaged', innit. No one cares about politics anymore, we have to be bribed with pop culture if you want us to be interested in something. LOL
Not that I think BA is apathetic, I'm speaking in generalities here. But seriously, there's absolutely nothing wrong with getting inspired about something by a piece of art, even if it fails to spark your interest by being a current affair. I think it's patronising to say that some things should be found interesting and others less so - that's simply your opinion. Plus, BA's right that H&A isn't exactly a topical or political album. It's not really making a statement on Iraq or global terrorism or the genocide in Rwanda. It's about a side of war that doesn't really come out in the news - the history, the psychology, the valour, the dead. If those were things I was interested (which they are) then I would be much more inspired by H&A than the News at Ten (which I am).
As it happens, I'm a politics student and I happen to spend rather a lot of time studying global affairs, including a lot of modern conflict, but my interest in these areas is totally different to the interest that was sparked by H&A, about the heroism and the horror, the brutality and the pointlessness of the world wars.
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