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Post by isador21 on Aug 2, 2008 19:41:19 GMT
I mean, there can't really be a million of us  They did get alot more "public" with The Dark Third, since it was so hyped by prog rock magazines and websites... I've gotten a couple people hooked to the band, In Aurelia being the most "accessible" song of theirs based on my experimentations ... But really how popular is PRR? How easy is it to appreciate at first? What purcentage of earth has heard at least 1 PRR song in their life? How do you predict PRR's future in "electro-prog" ? |
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Post by forwardrob on Aug 2, 2008 21:25:20 GMT
I found PRR due to hearing they were from Reading (where I live) and that they quoted Pink Floyd.
That was enough for me, and Cautionary Tales got me hooked.
I agree - In Aurelia is the song that most people have enjoyed, but I think that The Intention Craft Acoustic fairly unanimously gets the thumbs-up.
And the future - they've not got more mainstream, and I can't see them breaking through at all, unfortunately. Nonetheless they are more likely to in this new guise (guitars appear to be going out) and they definitely feel more like a coherent unit.
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Post by isador21 on Aug 3, 2008 1:45:38 GMT
Victorious Cupid and Deus are pretty catchy also ... The rest of what we've heard from the next album probably won't appeal mainstream listeners tho... I think that's a good thing  |
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Post by david on Aug 5, 2008 19:18:27 GMT
I don't think they'll make the mainstream because their music is too 'long' and 'confusing' for the average person to enjoy. I say good....
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Post by isador21 on Aug 5, 2008 22:59:23 GMT
Most of my friends who can't appreciate 6 minutes + songs only got into In Aurelia and Deus Ex Machina ...
They're both short, simple and catchy songs ...
(Well, Deus isn't really simple, but it is very catchy... The F word might be appealing to mainstream listeners too)
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Post by Lawrie on Aug 5, 2008 23:05:34 GMT
Can't believe that no one has mentioned what I consider to be PRR's most 'pop-py' song by several hundred light years:
NIMOS!
Absolutely by far and away the song with the most pop sensibilities in their catalogue as PRR, IMO - and it has invariably been the song that non-PRR fans who I encourage to give the band a listen relate to fastest and best.
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Post by blondeambassador on Aug 5, 2008 23:07:02 GMT
The F word might be appealing to mainstream listeners too) I think thats being a LITTLE patronising towards 'mainstream listeners,' they're not going to like a song just because it contains a swear word, once...I can't believe how much emphasis has been put on one little word, I was away while most of the discussion on it happened but it hadn't occured to me anyone would ever consider it such a big deal! Anyway...Deus is a much more accesible song I think, its got quite a simple structure, a catchy tune and hook, which isn't always the case with PRR, which might be why more people who aren't usually into the band get into it. (Same goes, in my opinion, for In Aurelia and The Intention Craft.) |
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Post by isador21 on Aug 6, 2008 0:04:25 GMT
The F word might be appealing to mainstream listeners too) I think thats being a LITTLE patronising towards 'mainstream listeners,' they're not going to like a song just because it contains a swear word, once... 2 words : Limp Bizkit.
First song of PRR I heard was The Intention Craft... The one that got me hooked and which I always considered the "most accessible" before finding out about the 2-discs edition and In Aurélia was Goshen's Remains ... |
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Post by ryan on Aug 6, 2008 12:34:23 GMT
Limp Bizkit haven't released anything in how long?!
It's a little bit of a strech to think that PRR will ever be appreciated by the same audience who are still into nu-metal, and i assume from you're comment you're thinking about rap n'all.
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Post by Nikos on Aug 6, 2008 15:57:10 GMT
who the hell said mainstream listeners like songs with the f-word in?
possibly the dumbest thing I ever heard. ever. and I've listened to Amy Winehouse interviews.
my mum listens to mainstream music, and last time I checked, she's not a huge fan of limp bizkit.
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Post by isador21 on Aug 6, 2008 16:39:28 GMT
I simply mentionned Limp Bizkit because swear words are 1 of the multiple ways to hit mainstream popularity, mainly for a teen audience in the 90's ... NIN also did that ...
There are many other ways tho ...
The most modern way of hitting mainstream popularity would be the whole image surrounding a band or a pop singer (never use the term "artist")
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Post by blondeambassador on Aug 6, 2008 16:57:15 GMT
who the hell said mainstream listeners like songs with the f-word in? possibly the dumbest thing I ever heard. ever. and I've listened to Amy Winehouse interviews. my mum listens to mainstream music, and last time I checked, she's not a huge fan of limp bizkit.  Well said doesn't even begin to cover it... On the topic, I don't think Limp Bizkit, or NIN for that matter, used the swear words to appeal to mainstream, if anything quite the opposite- they wanted to seem rebellious perhaps, or maybe they just wanted to use the bloody words cos they expressed what they wanted to say! (As is my argument in the case of the 'deus-gate,' I think, there is a sense "she'll fucking never know if I have anything to do with it..." which just wouldn't have come across the same if he just said 'oh, she'll never know...' which sounds less powerful/angry and more remorseful. It's all about meaning not shock value or anything else. Never got a chance to say that before as I was prancing around the East but there, said it now.) I think one of the biggest problems in this discussion is that without going off on a major rant, what is 'mainstream?' Because these days, its not simply the charts, there are a multitude of 'mainstreams,' it's a really wide term that doesn't actually really mean much. |
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Post by Lawrie on Aug 6, 2008 17:08:20 GMT
I dunno, I think 'mainstream' is still a fairly valid term to use. I always take mainstream to mean anything that achieves at least a degree (and that's the debatable part, the actual degree) of success/exposure on major media channels - i.e. airplay on commercial radio, coverage on major national TV channels, mentions in the main national newspapers etc. But that's a whole other debate, really. And by all rights, Nimos should have been bigger than Wonderwall/Hey Ya! etc...  |
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Post by ryan on Aug 6, 2008 17:13:09 GMT
Don't be dragging NIN into this.
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Post by david on Aug 6, 2008 17:14:05 GMT
I BLAME THE INTERNET! With such a varied mix of music nowadays and so easy to find and discover that there just isn't a person out there who likes a particular 'type' of music. Take me for example, I love my prog like Rush, Genesis etc, but I'm also going to Ibiza in afew weeks to binge drink, and listen to sum bangin' chuuuuuuunnn's! 'av it!......anyway...
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Well said doesn't even begin to cover it...