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Post by isador21 on Dec 12, 2008 4:06:40 GMT
On the video note...I know very few people who watch music videos these days anyway, I'm not even sure if it's justifiable to spend a bands money on them really anymore...maybe thats just me and my friends though. Where the f*** do you live?  North-american (or just french canadian :  music revolves around the presentation. The only person I know who doesn't listen to the big MTV hits is still only into music videos, or "clips" as our local MTV equivalent likes to call them... |
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Post by ryan on Dec 12, 2008 13:49:26 GMT
You and your mates are a worldwide exception, a music video (and certainly MTV etc) aren't as important as they once were by a long way.
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Post by blondeambassador on Dec 12, 2008 13:57:55 GMT
Nah, the music channels are poor, none of us bother because why listen to what MTV want you to when you can choose it yourself. The only time I'd watch a music video would be on youtube and even then I'd usually choose a live performance over an actual video.
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Post by Lawrie on Dec 12, 2008 14:09:38 GMT
We're rather veering off-topic into General Music discussion now, aren't we? But what the hey, this is where the action is, so I'll stick here for now.
Aaaaanyway, my own tuppence-worth is that promo music videos are still a worthwhile endeavour, albeit nowhere near as important a tool for bands as they used to be. The near-unlimited choice and variety of Youtube and the internet has made specific music video channels such as MTV2 and the like just about redundant for me, and the people I'm friends with. But(agreeing with Ryan's earlier point) I think a Youtube presence is very important for bands, and not just amateur fan videos taken in the crowd at concerts (which are interesting for exisiting fans of Band X, but just about pointless for a newcomer, unless the video is of a rarely achieved visual and audio quality).
However, if I was going to recommend Band X's music to a friend who'd never heard them before, my first port of call would be to send them to a Youtube link of Band X's most catchy, public-friendly promo video. It's a great way for newcomers to a band to get a taste of what the band sound like at their most accessible, and you can get anyone to give them a try fror free this way with the best possible chances (IMO) of them saying, "yeah that was pretty frigging cool!".
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Post by flyingswordfish on Dec 12, 2008 18:56:18 GMT
I'm with Lawrie on this one. Most of the time, when I'm interested in a new band, I go on YouTube to look for official videos. I have a hunch that's where more and more people are going to check out new music, but either way, even a half-decent video will not create bad publicity for a band. PRR stands to gain from having a video, I think.
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Post by flyingswordfish on Dec 12, 2008 19:19:06 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but:
On PRR's MySpace, the tour promotion image has been updated, and that Heart Shaped Flesh Mass now has a more well-defined square around it with the words Pure Reason Revolution Amor Vincit Omnia in the upper right hand corner. I believe this confirms the image as the album cover.
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Post by the dark fourth on Dec 12, 2008 20:58:37 GMT
Fuck. I think you're right. I can't say I'm going to fall in love with that instantly....
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Post by pagad on Dec 13, 2008 16:56:37 GMT
What the hell kind of a cover is that?  |
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Post by blondeambassador on Dec 13, 2008 17:19:06 GMT
No, I hate to say I can't say I'm keen on it either...which is a shame because Chloe is a really good designer, I don't know if it's her design, it might not even be hers but I've much prefered some of her others.
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Post by the dark fourth on Dec 13, 2008 22:47:38 GMT
Yeah, the banners for the gigs this year have been cool. This is just weird and totally un-aesthetically appealling. And it doesn't fit the feel of the music, like the old artwork did (not that I was a huge fan of that either). If it's supposed to be a take on Caravaggio (which I'm starting to doubt) then at least make it a little clearer and more interesting. But I agree it's a shame given Chloe's talent.
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Post by stumoo on Dec 15, 2008 13:18:37 GMT
Anyway, the ORG release notwithstanding, Deus might end up being the first 'proper' single released for AVO (if any singles are released at all), but whether it is or it isn't both it and VC will be on Amor. Interesting development, I was reading a review of the show in Bonn, and the bit in bold is of particular interest: "Alper, guitarist Jamie Wilcox and drummer Paul Glover keep the sound commercial whilst Courtney adds a cerebral veneer to the experience with his lyrics set around premises of consciousness/unconsciousness and sleep (or so I think I heard somewhere). The audio and visual tapes have to end sometime though, and so PRR play "Deux Ex Machina" for the second time as an encore. "it's our next single so we want to make sure you remember it" says Chloe. Good to know that remaining commercial matters because that will make or break this undoubtedly talented band. " From www.english-network.de/Live_concerts/Live_Events/Rose_&_Reason_in_Bonn/ I think that settles it then, Deus is set to be a single ;D PS. The review is positive even though the reviewer says it's not his kind of music. |
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Post by schorsch on Dec 17, 2008 22:40:36 GMT
Didn't they say at one of the recent gigs (in Germany, I believe) that Deus Ex Machina was going to be the first single from the album? Which is why they played it twice? ;D Yes, they certainly did. Cloe said so during the TV-Recording session in Bonn. She also metioned that they mixed up the first attempt so they had to play it as an extra encore. While setting up the instruments for this song she also stated that "Deus Ex Machina" will be their first single from that album. |
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Post by blondeambassador on Dec 18, 2008 2:20:57 GMT
Alper, guitarist Jamie Wilcox and drummer Paul Glover keep the sound commercial whilst Courtney adds a cerebral veneer to the experience with his lyrics set around premises of consciousness/unconsciousness and sleep (or so I think I heard somewhere). The audio and visual tapes have to end sometime though, and so PRR play "Deux Ex Machina" for the second time as an encore. "it's our next single so we want to make sure you remember it" says Chloe. Good to know that remaining commercial matters because that will make or break this undoubtedly talented band. " PS. The review is positive even though the reviewer says it's not his kind of music. Ha, I saw that review...was I the only one to find it a slightly amusing description, 'Courtney adds a cereberal veneer to the experience.' God, critics do talk rubbish trying to sound creative sometimes don't they, I can see why I decided that it possibly isn't the career choice for me! |
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Post by ryan on Dec 30, 2008 17:04:41 GMT
I hadn't been bothered to look at this new cropped one before now, so it's here for anyone who did the same:  So, it's a heart of body parts or something? I dunno, I quite like it really. Something about it works with the new tunes. |
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Post by the dark fourth on Dec 30, 2008 17:47:14 GMT
It's definitely in the right style, but for me it lacks any kind of aesthetic quality while managing to be a bit pretencious (or Toolish if you'd rather) at the same time. Ha, I saw that review...was I the only one to find it a slightly amusing description, 'Courtney adds a cereberal veneer to the experience.' God, critics do talk rubbish trying to sound creative sometimes don't they, I can see why I decided that it possibly isn't the career choice for me! I agree. Critics are not only (normally) aweful, but also entirely pointless since 99.9% of them are subjective. |
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