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Post by gilthar on Jun 2, 2011 11:24:31 GMT
I really do not want to be ill news bringer and please do not consider me as one who wants sth bad to PRR. the July show in Reading is almost sure to be canceled. since 2 shows in april we did not get any positive news from the band. we also didn't get permanent tour after release of H&A. it starts to look in my opinion that there are black clouds upon the future of my (and also I think for many of you) the best band.  what are your opinions? is there any one who is able to cheer me up? god! how i hate to start that thread.  |
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Post by ryan on Jun 2, 2011 13:07:33 GMT
eh? there's nothing to point to that even a little bit!
There wasn't a tour after The Dark Third either btw, a week of dates just before but not after. Doesn't really mean what you're reading into it.
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Post by gilthar on Jun 2, 2011 14:09:47 GMT
hope that you are right
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Post by Lawrie on Jun 2, 2011 16:40:05 GMT
No need to worry, gilthar. I'm as gutted as anyone about the likely cancellation of the Reading show: in fact, I'm more gutted - I think I had more emotionally invested in the prospect of PRR and AGF on the same bill than anybody else on these boards (apart from maybe Ryan). But PRR are far from on the way out, and I know that for a fact. Can't say any more for the moment (so don't bother asking), and I'm sorry to be a tease with information - I'd never have even posted anything at all on the subject if this thread hadn't cropped up. Just take it as read that there's no need to worry for the forseeable future.  |
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Post by gilthar on Jun 3, 2011 8:58:49 GMT
ok
i take it for granted that all is well and keep waiting for the leaking news from the band.
my fears comes i think also from the amount of people that i've seen on the gigs that i went during last year. in europe it was really poor.
sorry to bring such awful topic.
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Post by robfoot on Jun 3, 2011 13:11:41 GMT
Well the newsletter of today should quickly assuage your fears....
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Post by blondeambassador on Jun 3, 2011 14:05:06 GMT
Yeah, I wouldn't jump to any hasty or pessimistic conclusions! I think this is just a case of difficulties making arrangements with the other bands. I think those three bands really wanted to share a bill and as the others couldn't do it, it was impractical for everyone.
Good news about Guilfest though and obviously exciting news about this 'extravaganza,' sounds like it'll be a good'un!
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Post by the dark fourth on Jun 3, 2011 16:19:22 GMT
I don't know why Lawrie is being cagey - it must be something pretty cool though! I don't think anyone should be too optimistic though - gilthar has a lot of truth in what he says, though it's not as bad as he makes out I'm sure. What I will say for what it's worth is that I spoke to Jamie back in March and he did seem more that a little upset about the way the band was going. He assured me that PRR "weren't going to do an Oceansize" on us (though who knows if they'll change their minds, touch wood not), and he was frustrated that they weren't able to play more shows. He said the band just wants to be out there playing, and for reasons beyond their control this is not happening. He also mentioned that they were brainstorming ideas for new recordings, though he wouldn't give details and it seemed in very early formative stages.
One thing I must stress, having followed the band for many years is that with PRR you simply have to have huge reserves of patience. People have predicted the PRRocalypse many times before, and I'm constantly surprised at how they keep coming back stronger and more enthusiastic than ever. After TDT we had to wait THREE YEARS, may I remind you, for anything significant, with only a smattering of one-off shows for a very long time. That being said, you are right to point out that right now is one of the worst periods the band's seen in a while, so we all need to be supportive while this lasts, and make sure to get your hands on the awesome sounding TDT gatefold 12" later this month!!
Also I'll just say that I personally am very smug that there have not been any gigs to worry about this exam term, and nor will there be many this summer (it looks like), while I'm abroad, and I can look forward to a proper tour in October when I'm back. Hurrah!
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Post by gilthar on Jun 3, 2011 21:01:40 GMT
from my point of view I think I kinda forgot how does it work the prr machine. I think it is just some frustration so that I expected things like "hey it's our 3rd album so we should have some big tour, good promotion and get serious'
as the dark fourth wrote Jamie was a bit disappointed with the way it worked. when in april i talked with Jon and mostly with Paul they were also in similar mood. they didn't know what the hell is going on with the promotion.
what Paul said to a friend of mine that there seem to be lack of development of band status on the market. playing same venues, for small crowds (Scala excluded of course). i do not know the selling figures of H&A but what they say it seemed to be ok for the Superball so far.
though, personally i would prefer to see them all the time at the gigs where there is 50-100 people in small venues. but i know if this continue to happen it is likely that it won't work for a long time.
the newsletter made me much happier than i was when starting this thread. but still i will not be that enthusiastic with the tour until I see the dates and see them playing this shows!
hope the way they are on is good.
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Post by ryan on Jun 4, 2011 0:21:19 GMT
That's the eternal problem, how to expand your audience.
Anyway, vinyl eh? Do I need a fourth copy of this record? Yeah I guess I do really...
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Post by matthew on Jun 4, 2011 0:39:28 GMT
Hey Ryan  Can't believe its almost been half a year since Scala... So sad to hear the band are being held back from getting out there. I want to hug them. |
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Post by butler on Jun 4, 2011 10:37:14 GMT
I think the band should focus on being a support act for more established bands. I've no idea how easy that is to set up, but I know I would never have discovered the band if not for their stint with Porcupine Tree, and I'm convinced there's an audience out there for the kind of music they make.
It's a real shame the band aren't getting more exposure though. H&A is a great album, which deserves to be heard by more people, though I do fear they're missing the moment to base future promotions around that album. Maybe it's best at this point to work on a new album, and come out guns blazing off the back of that.
I've recently submitted a few reviews for PRR albums on iTunes Amazon etc. Maybe that's one way we can help to promote the band, by writing glowing reviews of the bands work on the various retail outlet websites?
Anyway, it's a relief to hear that there's going to be no Oceansize style break up of the band, but they do need a better promoter behind them moving forward.
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Post by ryan on Jun 4, 2011 10:50:17 GMT
Hey Ryan ha, hello! |
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Post by the dark fourth on Jun 4, 2011 12:17:10 GMT
the newsletter made me much happier than i was when starting this thread. but still i will not be that enthusiastic with the tour until I see the dates and see them playing this shows! Very good point. Just because they've said there'll be an October tour is no guarantee that it will actually happen! |
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Post by gilthar on Jun 4, 2011 14:52:54 GMT
the newsletter made me much happier than i was when starting this thread. but still i will not be that enthusiastic with the tour until I see the dates and see them playing this shows! Very good point. Just because they've said there'll be an October tour is no guarantee that it will actually happen! it was just too many times when I've seen such news. Though it makes me anxious for I would really love to go for 3 or 5 shows in October. hope it will happen! |
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