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Post by Lawrie on Mar 9, 2008 20:10:40 GMT
68 minutes of Revolutionary goodness is on digital versatile disc is indeed something to savour, can't wait! And Spurs thrashed West Ham 4-0 today as well, what a day! I should buy a lottery ticket at this rate, it'll probably come up trumps on the next draw...
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 22, 2008 21:55:19 GMT
Aeropause didn't used to be a rarity at gigs, I remember the little stretch of gigs back in, er, 2006 (I think) that included the Hertford Marquee and that weird little place above the Xcape entertainment complex in Milton Keynes where the band would regularly open the set with Aeropause, with Jamie sitting down to play the slide guitar part. I think that Milton Keynes gig was the strangest venue I've seen PRR play, but good fun - though I remember drunkenly accosting Chloe, Jim and Jamie in the crowd during the support set and begging them to get Nimos in the set... ha ha, good times!
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 22, 2008 9:34:21 GMT
I think there will be both. and it will be a PRR release, not nearfest.but I think it's in the very early stages, and ideas are just being tossed around. Even with the caveat of it being a long way from done, my response to that is to go into a stream of uncontrollable Partridge-ism's: BACK OF THE NET! IN OFF THE RED! CASHBACK! JURASSIC PARK! SPICEWORLD!........ <repeat ad nauseum> ;D
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 20, 2008 15:33:12 GMT
to be fair, considering PRR weren't headlining Nearfest, I don't think the Nearfest guys would do a strictly PRR dvd would they? No, wouldn't expect that at all. I was just unsure as to whether a future PRR DVD would be a PRR 'in-house' production using their appearance at Nearfest and other bits and bobs (and therefore a PRR-only DVD), or whether the DVD would be a Nearfest production that happens to feature some PRR. As far as I know there hasn't been anything concrete that has told everyone if a DVD would be a PRR production or a Nearfest production, or even if there will be any DVD at all?
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 19, 2008 20:45:41 GMT
Back to the DVD [assuming one is released], wonder if it will be a PRR-only DVD, or whether it will be a NearFest DVD that features PRR playing amongst others? Hopefully [and rather selfishly] it will be the first option: if it was, it'd be great if there were one or two 'extras' chucked on as well - maybe the videos for Bright Ambassadors and Intention Craft (so we could finish with the tiny-sized Quicktime vids on the singles!), or some other random live videos from different gigs. That would be pretty sweet.
Anyway, 100% buying any DVD that features even a song's-worth of PRR, so do us proud Revolutionaries! ;D
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 11, 2008 14:10:25 GMT
I don't see why that means you can't post to be honest. For a start there's only a couple of people who didn't know already, I know I was told on the old board. It is nice to have someone that can at least give a yes or no to the stuff speculated about, even if it's not something you can do all the time. And at the end of the day, you're a fan and that's what we're here for. What he said.
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 8, 2008 13:29:02 GMT
Not trying to be deliberately obtuse or secretive, but don't really feel that it's my place to say how nikosonfire is connected with the band, that's not my decision to make. We all have usernames so that people can protect their privacy if they choose to (by the way, I don't really give a monkey's about mine - my name's Lawrie if anyone ever feels silly typing scat1620, it's an old uni e-mail login that is convenient for me to remember as a username). But for privacy's sake we shouldn't dig into people's personal details unless they themselves offer to discuss them, in my opinion. If this live album and/or live DVD does come out at some point or another, don't suppose anyone knows the set that PRR played at NearFest, do they? I'm almost salivating at the idea that we'd get a new studio album AND a live album/DVD in the same year from our Revolutionary pedigree chums...
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 7, 2008 17:24:01 GMT
In my [uninformed] take on things: 1) We know the band *are* currently working on studio album #2, so there's no knowing whether that would arrive before or after a potential live album. 2) The poster on those forums wasn't a band member (seemed like he was involved in some official capacity with NearFest), so we don't know how much [if any] time PRR themselves are spending on 'creating' a live album: it may be that the NearFest chaps just get a decent recording out of the gig that PRR approve (or otherwise tinker with), and hey presto you have a live album that in no way hinders recording a new studio album. 3) There's no rule that says that the band have to release a second studio album before a potential live album, and there's nothing stopping both coming out within a short gap of each other. 4) nikosonfire *is* in the know with the behind-the-scenes workings of PRR, so if he says to sit tight, that's all we need to hear... ;D
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Post by Lawrie on Feb 7, 2008 17:06:24 GMT
You just need to do a 2 second registration for the forums to read the page, TDF, but since I've just done that myself, here is the post: Yes. I own Progressive Arts which also dba NEARfest Records. We are starting work on a PRR live album, the NF06 DVD, & a Le Orme 2CD set. Btw Keith Emerson is buying his audio and video .More news to come.
The echolyn release is all up to Brett!
------------- Chad ----------------------- NEARfest X June 20th, 21st & 22nd, 2008 www.nearfest.com
*** This post was edited by nearfest2 on 2/6/2008. ***
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 30, 2007 10:13:32 GMT
Oh superb(!) If there's one band you can trust to not release some eagerly awaited material it's PRR! Or Portishead. Or The Music. But yeah, PRR are up there with the best of them. It's a huge shame, but I'm not very surprised about that... Don't worry...we'll get all the info we need regarding the next album (due in January), the line-up changes, the record deal et al, in the next newsletter, because now, they're going to come 'thick and fast' according to Jamie and the manager chappie. Well...so far they'e half right .Ha ha, that made me chuckle!
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 29, 2007 11:46:45 GMT
Just checked this, and the thing about the DVD has now been removed!!! As has his claim on his Myspace that he (&PRR) has recently signed to inside out!!! Porkies Paul?!! I guess we all tell a few of them on our CV's but it might confuse the rest of us!! Oh superb(!) If there's one band you can trust to not release some eagerly awaited material it's PRR! Or Portishead. Or The Music. But yeah, PRR are up there with the best of them. It's a huge shame, but I'm not very surprised about that...
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 7, 2007 15:36:18 GMT
Just seen the latest news on the PRR Myspace that Paul is doing some kind of drumming clinic in December. Now, not being a drummer, personally I'm not all that interested in that, but after reading the bulletin, I did take a peek at Paul's personal website, www.paulglover.co.uk. In the Biography section of the website, the following caught my eye: "In late June 2007 Pure Reason Revolution went to the USA to play a short tour, including an appearance at the highly acclaimed prog festival 'Nearfest'. They hope to soon be releasing a live performance DVD filmed at the festival." If that is true, then all I can say is BACK OF THE NET! I'd love to have a decent quality live DVD of PRR. Anyway, I sent an e-mail to Paul just asking how likely such a DVD was and that there would probably be decent demand for a DVD if they ever released one. I'll let you know if he replies to my e-mail. Great news, if it's true.
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 7, 2007 23:36:25 GMT
I have lived all my life being obsessed with bands that no one I knew had even heard of. What provides me with constant cheer is that there are, even if you haven't met them, always plenty of other people who are as obsessed as you are, who like all the same things about the band that you do, and who are generally able to see the brilliance that so many people simply fail to spot. They may not be as numerous (or as half-hearted) as the fans of 'big' bands, but they're there, and they make themselves heard.I didn't even know of PRR's existence till about a year ago, which is terribly, terribly sad for me. I desperately wish I'd been with all you guys when they were starting out, and had been to all their tours etc etc. But I really don't blame this on bad publicity or poor marketting. I blame it on the lack of musical justice in the world; that good bands generally don't get big. This I am fully, if sadly, resigned to. But it is an essential point - that there probably aren't all that many people out there who would become converts if they were only able to hear the music. Almost everyone who's a likely PRR fan will be trawling the prog rock scene for bands like this anyway (that's how I found them). I don't think if PRR were suddenly marketted 'properly' they would get hoards of fans automatically. I think they should let fans come to them, not vice versa. That way the fans are real fans, and they have more time to concentrate on doing the music bit as well as they can. Obviously, months of absolutely no activity (like we have at the mo) are a bad idea in every respect, but I think in the reincarnation we are about to witness music should be put first and marketting a definite second. More fans are of course a good thing, but I don't thing the gains PRR would make by investing everything in business planning would really be very substantial. I know many will disagree, but in my experience there is surprisingly little difference that can be made to brilliant and obscure bands' fan bases. Completely agree and empathise with the parts of your post I've highlighted blue - it is indeed very comforting to know that there are other people out there who feel as passionately as I do about this band, since only one other of my mates likes PRR as much as I do, and the rest of my mates are ambivalent at best after I've lent them my CDs. *sigh* On the other hand, I very strongly disagree with the parts of your post I've highlighted red. I really do think that PRR and their management (could apply to either or both - I don't know how much responsibility falls where for their promotion etc) could do a HELL of a lot better at making themselves known to people, and building a bigger fanbase. I take your point that the best groups often struggle to appeal to a mass market, but even for an 'alternative' group, PRR have a pitifully small fanbase IMO, and I think that it's largely (if not solely) down to poor promotion/marketing/business acumen. My favourite non-mainstream artists of recent years include acts like Ladytron, Hope Of The States, The Mars Volta, 65daysofstatic etc etc - and all of these bands have bigger fanbases and a higher music scene profile than PRR do, ranging from slightly more popular/high profile (65dos, Ladytron) to massively more popular/high profile (The Mars Volta). In my opinion, PRR are as musically accessible to Joe Public as someone like Ladytron or Hope Of The States, and much more musically accessible than the likes of The Mars Volta and 65dos. Therefore they should be appealing to a wider audience than the handful of diehards that they currently do. I firmly believe that it is not the music they make that holds them back from this (as I feel that less 'easy-to-get' bands have bigger fanbases), and therefore it must be the poor promotion and other such related stuff that is holding them back. I wish they'd get it right as well, because their music is so good (they are probably in my current top two or three bands) that it would be the most terrible shame if they were forced to stop making this brilliant music because they couldn't pay the rent or get the shopping in. From my [uninformed] outsider's viewpoint, I wish the band would treat their music and its distribution like a proper career, and that their management would pull their fingers out and make a lot more noise a lot more often about the band. I don't think that this would change or commercialise the music they're making, but simply make a lot more people aware of their stuff. Who knows, I may be being too harsh on both the band and the people around them, but that's how it seems to me. But I digress - my bottom line point is that I recognise that PRR are never going to be a Coldplay or a U2 (thank f*ck!), or even a Radiohead, but that still doesn't mean they can't be a lot bigger and sell a lot more records/gig tickets than they do now.
All IMO, be interested to hear other people's takes on what I assume is a big, horrible, hard-to-read block of text after this much typing! ;D
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 7, 2007 15:45:47 GMT
At the end of the day, it all boils down to whether or not the band wants to be a studio band and whether the punters want to just buy the recordings or go and see the band. Personally, I have always enjoyed the live act more than the recordings - of which I have every one ever made. So I don't have a problem with that, as I will buy the next release anyway, and go and see the band anyway. The problem lies with new fans. If they don't hear the music then they may not go and see the band if they do tour. If the band sells the music then they will have to sign to a label to release it and then get the advance to tour it. If they give the music away then it's a gamble on whether fans will be attracted to the live shows. All of this disappoints me as I want to see the band live (in Glasgow preferably) but I know there's little chance of that due to lack of exposure. I have supported PRR for 3 years now, and every time I thought 'yeah, they're on their way' ...they come to a dead stop. I've seen them blow away Mew, HOTS, Oceansize, Halo (?) on major tours, only to fail to capitalise on their new fans. 'Awesomeness' won't put bums on seats unless it's exploited oh bugger....we're getting back to management incompetence now.....................[/color][/quote] I can't tell you how much I agree and empathise with the part of your post I've highlighted. *applauds*
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 2, 2007 16:07:53 GMT
Good stuff, it's great to hear them actually getting in touch with the fans, even if they can't say much/haven't got much to say. This is something which they admit they have been doing poorly in recent times, and hopefully this will be the start of PRR re-establishing a relationship with the fans going forward.
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