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Post by Lawrie on Oct 6, 2007 9:54:16 GMT
Ok, just in case anyone does belatedly respond to this thread, I now have a copy of the IDC remix after someone on the boards e-mailed me an online store that sold the single. Huge thanks to that man. Mods - feel free to close/delete this thread if you want to.
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Post by Lawrie on Sept 19, 2007 8:59:41 GMT
Hi everyone
I'm a massive PRR fan, and have just discovered this forum after being in the wilderness for a long time now the old Sony forum is no more.
I was just wondering if anyone could do me a massive favour? I am a bit of a PRR completist (I've bought every CD since the original Poptones issue of Apprentice Of The Universe), but the only studio song that I don't have is the IDC remix of In Aurelia that was on the b-side to the IA single (the one PRR CD I stupidly didn't get), and provides the soundtrack to Jamie's 'Home Video Part 1' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytlb-Njg8E).
I would be very grateful if someone on these boards could help me get a copy of this remix. I'm not fussy about method (e-mail, MSN messenger transfer, uploading song to a website, selling a copy of the original IA single, sending a copy of the CD in the post etc), and I'd be willing to pay a reasonable price if someone wants to sell the original CD, or to cover postage and copy costs if someone can send me a physical copy of the CD. I'm just looking to get hold of the song any way I can, and I would really appreciate anyone who can help me out.
My e-mail address is lawrence.ward@stcatz-oxford.com if anyone can help, or alternatively drop me a PM on these boards.
Many thanks in advance!
;D
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 21, 2007 16:55:13 GMT
I'm almost certain they intend to go a little more down the electronic road on the next album...it was a good while ago but I vaguely remember Jon saying something about it plus, the electro scene is something they are all very much into at the minute, so it shouldn't come as a suprise if that is reflected in their new album. If they continue like Deus Ex Machina though, I think this could be a very good thing! I think they're possibly distancing themselves from the whole 'prog' thing a little...I know they were never keen on that label in the first place! That sounds about right to me. When I saw them at the Hertford Marquee back in the spring of this year, I had a quick chat with Jon after the gig, and was telling him how much I enjoyed the 'electronic' part of Golden Clothes (it was the first time I'd ever heard it, and I had to ask him what it was). When I mentioned that he said that they'd been trying to put together a
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Post by Lawrie on Nov 21, 2007 11:05:09 GMT
Several things to point out on this discussion: a) although Victorious Cupid does sound very similar to TDT in general, if you listen closely there are plenty of new (and awesome) riffs, and the a capella bit at the beginning is awesome. b) I think the indecipherability (is that a word?) of PRR's writing is part of their charm. It's so refreshing having a band that doesn't try and force its crazed political views (even if I agree with most of them) down your throat, but instead lets you take what you want from the overall impression. And the real beauty is that every now and again you do catch a phrase, and it has so much more meaning for its rarity. The little snippets of imagery you can glean are so suggestive and beautiful, it inspires me far more than if they'd told me something plainly that I can't question or adapt to my own feelings. The quality of true creative beauty comes as much from the listener/reader etc as it does from the composer/author etc. That's why PPR are creative geniuses - they acknowledge this. If you want music to change the world, of course, then its no good, but if you just want something beautiful, then its perfect. c) I agree change is needed, though I would call more for 'development' rather out and out sudden change. If you listen to Radiohead's early stuff (as a random example) it sounds nothing like Kid A etc... Bands develop, and I'm sure PRR is no exception. I can't wait to see what progress the next album brings. Some of the new tracks they played at Southampton the other night were sounding way more metal-ish than they've previously been. I'm so excited! Okay, TDF, I'll try and kick things off again a little round here by replying to two of your points: b) Lyrics-wise, I think PRR are fairly useless. It's all just gibberish to me. Maybe that points to something wrong with me, but I've never rated lyrics that do the whole 'stream of consciousness, make up your own interpretation' thing. However, and I'd like to make this very clear, IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL to me. When a band sounds as good as PRR do, the vocals are just another (brilliant) instrument in the mix, and the lyrics are of no consequence whatsoever to me. I feel exactly the same way about some of my favourite bands: The Mars Volta, Sigur Ros, The Music, Mew - IMO the lyrics of all of these bands are completely dispensable [i.e. they might just as well be singing the contents of the Yellow Pages for all I care], but they *sound* brilliant. And this is all that matters to me. To quote Mansun's hidden track on Attack Of The Grey Lantern, "the lyrics aren't supposed to mean that much, they're just a vehicle for the lovely noise". Exactly how I treat PRR's and other such bands' lyrics. Doesn't stop me loving their music though. That said, I *do* like a sharp set of lyrics from bands that make that their focus. Bands like Pulp, The Streets (first two albums), The Dears, OK Computer-era Radiohead, Sons & Daughters and Arctic Monkeys are all excellent lyricists in my opinion, and I think all the better for it as the vocals don't seem to be an extra 'instrument' - the genius is mainly in the content, rather than the sound of the voice. Although that's not to say I don't love Thom Yorke's voice, for example. Anyway, what I'm trying to get across is that a decent set of lyrics is always welcome for me, but if I like the overall *sound* that a band makes, then I don't care if they're lyrics aren't any good, as with PRR. And it's just my personal opinion that PRR's lyrics are fairly dispensable: fair play to anyone who thinks that they are really good lyrically - it's just not my cup of tea. c) Re: PRR's sound, and future development of it - obviously, most people won't want to hear a carbon-copy of The Dark Third for PRR's next album. The things I love about PRR are the vocal harmonies between Jon and Chloe (and Jamie when he chips in), and the absolutely brilliant production values to their songs. Nearly all of their songs are superbly layered with beautifully subtle little touches (right up there with my favourite producers like Jim Abbiss and Rich Costey), and it makes their songs a joy to listen to on headphones for me. So I hope that their next album includes both these facets: the vocal harmonies and the top notch production values. In the 'newer' songs that we've heard (i.e. Golden Clothes [even if it has been around for a while, it's still a new-ish release], Victorious Cupid and Deus Ex Machina), the band seem to have gone either 'dancier' (GC), more metal-like (VC), or both (DEM). Personally, I really like their 'dance-y'/electronica slant on stuff - the last minute or two of Golden Clothes and the keyboards at 3:53 on the Krakow YouTube of Deus Ex Machina are brilliant IMO, and I'd like to see this side of their sound develop on the new album. ;D
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Post by Lawrie on Mar 1, 2008 9:14:06 GMT
Nice to have you here, theapprentice, a few of us (myself included) used to be on the old Sony boards. Welcome back on board.
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