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Post by isador21 on Mar 7, 2009 23:04:01 GMT
interestingly identifies Disconnect as a high, which is completely the opposite from what most fans have been saying...does this mean they consider it a stronger track than Apogee Woot! So I'm not alone... |
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Post by blondeambassador on Mar 8, 2009 13:45:55 GMT
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Post by blondeambassador on Mar 9, 2009 12:08:31 GMT
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Post by Lawrie on Mar 9, 2009 13:37:46 GMT
Teletext review by my mate John Earls: www.teletext.co.uk/planetsound/album-live-reviews/e5070364d8f9405fdc4baf782d550cd5/bPure+Reason+RevolutionAmor+Vincit+Omnia+510b.aspxDisappointing score, he gave the album 5/10, but focused on what he thought was rubbish production as his main critical beef. Hmmm. Now I can understand someone not particularly liking PRR or AVO on the basis that they're just not into the songs or that style of music, but I've always thought that they've been one of the best produced acts out of all the bands I like. Funny thing to pick a hole in, IMO, since I always think their records sound very clear, crisp and up-front, and not at all 'muddy'. For me, that's great production, so I'm not sure what Earls is on about with this review... |
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Post by butler on Mar 9, 2009 14:05:29 GMT
My review of that review shall carry the same measure of thought and content: bobbins.
Seriously though, if that's all you're going to write about it then why bother? Nothing wrong with the production either, as you say Lawrie, the sound always comes across nice and clear. You can pretty much see the polish coming off some of the tracks.
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Post by Lawrie on Mar 9, 2009 14:14:15 GMT
My review of that review shall carry the same measure of thought and content: bobbins. Seriously though, if that's all you're going to write about it then why bother? Nothing wrong with the production either, as you say Lawrie, the sound always comes across nice and clear. You can pretty much see the polish coming off some of the tracks. To be fair, they have a fixed and [very] short space for their album reviews, so they can't get much detail in and I've had an e-mail chat with him where he explained his thoughts in greater depth. But yeah, his main problem, both via e-mail and in that review was that he thought the production stank, and that's something I just can't get my head round even trying to come at it from the POV of a non-fan. Very weird. Don't worry though, my e-mail setting the record straight to their readers' letters page got sent approximately 15 minutes after that review was published last night: the nation needs to know the truth!  Oh, and JE is generally very good - aside from a rather over the top love of Elbow (since their formation, not just a case of jumping on their recent bandowagon), he's put me on to bands like Hope Of The States, Muse, The Music, The Dears and The Streets very, very early on in their careers, so I have a lot to be thankful for in his reviews over the years. Just can't work out where on earth he's coming from with the AVO review. |
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Post by blondeambassador on Mar 9, 2009 14:35:32 GMT
I can't say I'd ever be a fan on such short reviews, there are many albums you simply can't get across in that kind of space. It's also one of my (many) problems with the NME reviews.
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Post by butler on Mar 9, 2009 14:36:14 GMT
I suppose everyone's allowed an off day then.  It is going to be a tricky album for many reviewers to approach though, just because it dabbles with so many different styles and ideas. I had a friend over last night and I was listening to Deus Ex Machina from the Nearfest CD. He was so impressed he asked to borrow it! This is the first time our tastes have ever come anywhere close to crossing, as he's a big Rammstein and Goth fan! It has opened my eyes to just how far from my usual tastes AVO has taken me though, and that can only be a good thing. |
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Post by forwardrob on Mar 9, 2009 15:32:14 GMT
The over-love of Elbow is definitely right in there. Might go on to check out The Dears if he's a fan.
The production is not as clear as on TDT (although what in the past 20 years has been?) but at least the mastering remains incredibly not affected by loudness wars - still, if Jamie does backing vox, where are they? And his guitar lines throughout remain there and inventive, but incredibly difficult to find - I think I ended up putting the bass up a fair amount, which made it even more difficult to hear past the drums, which are really too crunching throughout.
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Post by Lawrie on Mar 9, 2009 15:46:16 GMT
Oooh, going slightly off topic here, but I can't recommend The Dears enough. They do have a habit of meandering slightly at times (lacking focus and doing 'noodly' bits in songs at times), but at their best they're a wonderfully inventive, orchestral, romantic and heartfelt baroque-indie outfit. They've done four 'proper' albums as far as I know: their first and the most recent ( End Of A Hollywood Bedtime Story and Missiles, respectively) have some great individual moments but do suffer from getting lost in the 'noodly' stuff in places, but their middle two albums, No Cities Left and Gang Of Losers are just start-to-finish classics, IMO. Hope you like them if you end up giving them a try. |
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Post by Lawrie on Mar 10, 2009 13:19:57 GMT
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Post by Neillwith2Ls on Mar 11, 2009 14:11:33 GMT
The production is not as clear as on TDT (although what in the past 20 years has been?) Any of the last four Porcupine Tree/Blackfield/Steven Wilson albums. I think they've won awards for production. |
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Post by blondeambassador on Mar 11, 2009 15:33:58 GMT
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Post by blondeambassador on Mar 11, 2009 16:34:17 GMT
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Post by baldyslaphead on Mar 11, 2009 16:56:36 GMT
I'm a bit surprised by the anti-PT sentiment in that. Did Steven Wilson kill the reviewer's cat or something? ;-)
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